Timeline for How to respond no to "Are your rates negotiable?"
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Jul 29, 2015 at 15:11 | comment | added | cdkMoose | @Halfer, agreed, but there are also freelancers that will try to under deliver or tack on extra charges. It goes both ways. There are good and bad on both sides and regardless of which side you are on, you need to protect yourself. | |
Jul 29, 2015 at 15:06 | comment | added | halfer | @cdkMoose: I think we agree with each other. Since you've been in the industry a long time, you clearly won't have been working for clients who pay less than a minimum wage, or who try to claw back all payments if any milestone is a day late (saw that gem on Upwork last week). These are ways to make a freelancer unhappy, and a freelancer will (correctly) fire a client if it goes on too long. That might not put the client out of business, but it's still a business risk from the client's perspective. | |
Jul 28, 2015 at 13:16 | comment | added | cdkMoose | @halfer It is also in the interests of the freelancer to keep a happy. Clients will try to push the price down and freelancers will be trying to push their earnings up, that is business and negotiations. I've been in the industry for a long time, and I have yet to find a developer who couldn't be replaced. Some would be more painful to replace than others, but there is a tipping point. Successful business requires that both sides win some. | |
Jul 28, 2015 at 9:11 | comment | added | halfer | @cdkMoose: I agree with Scott's advice, but I might take issue with part of yours. There are many clients who will try to push the price down as hard as they can, and such clients have not considered the impact to their business if their freelancer decides to refuse future work. Even where there is healthy competition, the freelancer is likely to have acquired domain or project knowledge that will take time to replace. It is thus in the interests of the experienced client that their freelancer is happy. | |
Jul 11, 2014 at 7:00 | comment | added | Mihai Boisteanu | @Scott You're right. I haven't got a situation like this but your answer sounds better than what I proposed. | |
Jul 9, 2014 at 16:55 | comment | added | cdkMoose | @Mihai, It's not about you, it's about your business and the client's business. Unless you have some kind of monopoly, client's business is not dependent on you staying in business. | |
Jul 9, 2014 at 15:12 | comment | added | Scott | I'd actually advise against this. Pleading about how "this is your living and how you pay your bills" is a very, very, poor negotiation stance. Business is business and personal pleas for understanding are the mark of an inexperienced business operator. | |
Jul 9, 2014 at 14:50 | history | answered | Mihai Boisteanu | CC BY-SA 3.0 |